06 February 2007 @ 09:24 am
Fic: Ties by Yin  
Title:

Ties
by [info]yin_again
Special thanks to [info]wesleysgirl for the beta.


No one was particularly surprised when Teyla started dating. Several people were surprised that the person she was dating wasn’t Ronon.
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“Who’s this Arlan guy?” John took a swing at Teyla; she parried it easily.

“His people are traditional allies of the Athosians,” she said, tripping him.

John stayed down, catching his breath. “I guess we all thought…”

Teyla sat on the floor next to him – it was the first time she’d ever done such a thing. “I know what you thought, Colonel, but that is not to be. My people have always had… close ties to the Caran people.”

“Wait. Is this some sort of arranged marriage?”

Teyla arched a brow at him, a silent question.

“In some earth cultures, marriages are decided when children are small. When the kids come of age, they get married – it doesn’t really matter what the couple involved wants.” John sat up from the floor, bracing one hand for leverage. “Sometimes it’s just that fathers choose who their daughters will marry.”

Teyla looked thoughtful. “This coupling was not arranged as such. I do not have romantic feeling for any of my people, so I have looked to the Caran, and Arlan is kind.”

“Why now?” John asked. “Why so all of a sudden?”

Teyla sighed. “It is time, Colonel. I am several years past the age at which most women from my world marry. It is my duty to replenish our people.”

“Let me get this right,” John said. “You’re expected to have children by a certain age to make up for the people lost in the cullings?”

Teyla nodded.
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“So,” Rodney said, running a hand up John’s bare back. “She has to be a brood mare for her people?”

“Jeez, Rodney – It’s not like… okay, wait. It’s exactly like that. And she’s supposed to do it with either an Athosian or a Caran.” John twisted his head around from the pillow to look at Rodney.

“It makes sense actually.” Rodney snapped his fingers. “Genetic diversity. If the Athosians all bred together, they’d eventually start having two-headed babies.”

John rolled over onto his back. “Really?”

“No, not really; it’s a metaphor.” He kissed John lightly on the forehead. “Seriously, how did you live to be thirty-eight being so gullible?”

“Thirty-seven,” John grumbled.
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“So, you’re okay with this?” John leaned against one of the balcony rails, panting.

Ronon flicked a stray dreadlock back. “I knew about it already, Sheppard. She told me it would happen sooner or later. Halling cornered her at the last Harvest Festival and gave her a bunch of crap about doing her duty before she got too old.”

“’A bunch of crap’? You’ve been spending too much time with Lorne.”

“Cadman,” Ronon said. “Cadman taught me that one. And a few other…”

John slapped his hands over his ears. “La la la, can’t hear you,” he said. “I really don’t want to know some things about my subordinates.”

Ronon clapped him on the back and smiled wistfully. “It was nice there for a while, when the team was two couples,” he said before jogging off.

John banged his head lightly on the railing and then followed.
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“Ronon knows about us,” John said, absently drawing swirls in Rodney’s sweat-dampened chest hair.

“No shit,” Rodney deadpanned. “It’s the biggest open secret on the base. It’s right up there with Lorne and Parrish and Elizabeth and Kate, and the medical-grade weed they’re growing in greenhouse 9.”

“Katie Brown?” John said.

“Heightmeyer.”

“Open secret?” John propped himself up on an elbow to look at Rodney, his eyebrows climbing into his hairline.

Rodney sighed. “I don’t know how you made it to thirty-eight being so oblivious.”

“Thirty-seven,” John said, twisting to straddle Rodney’s hips.
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No one was particularly surprised when Teyla and Arlan got engaged.
__

There were three parties. One was on the mainland; it featured a large roasted animal and an intricate maypole-like dance with Teyla and Arlan in the middle, ending up wrapped in woven ribbons, laughing. Another was held on Caran, a more stately affair with rituals and incense that worked almost as well as what was growing in greenhouse 9. They were assigned traditional Caran lodgings.

“Is this a yurt?” Rodney managed to keep talking even though John was stripping with the absolute precision of the very stoned.

“It is very possibly a yurt,” John said with an exaggerated nod. “We are totally going to fuck in a yurt.”

“Does the yurt have a bed?” Rodney looked around, but it didn’t stop him from groping John’s ass and trying to untangle his boots from his pants.

“Bed-like thing in the corner.” John pointed, swaying on his feet. “Get naked.”

“Oh, shit,” Rodney said, “Untie my boots.”

John didn’t bother to untie Rodney’s boots; he just tossed him over the bed and fucked him. In a yurt.

The last party was held on Atlantis, and Elizabeth went all out, having the Daedalus bring dress blues for the military personnel and a selection of tuxedos and ball gowns for the civilians. Teyla looked beautiful in a silver sheath and she and tuxedo-clad Arlan made quite a pair, swaying in the center of the dance floor. Later, Rodney made John stand at parade-rest in the center of his room for forty-five minutes before dragging him to bed and trying to get him to say, “Sir, yes sir.”

The standard engagement period was six months, and the couple alternated living on Caran and Atlantis, switching on the first day of each month. Arlan was adept at several fighting forms, so John turned him over to Lorne to teach the Marines, and Teyla continued to go on off-world missions. The Atlanteans had no idea what she did when she was on Caran.
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No one was surprised when Teyla and Arlan got married.
__

The ceremony was held on Caran. Three of Arlan’s friends stood by him; Elizabeth, John and Rodney stood up for Teyla. The Caran ritual included handfasting that involved the entire wedding party, and both John and Rodney sneaked looks at the silken cord that bound them for the duration of the ceremony, letting their fingers brush occasionally.

The Athosians threw a huge party to celebrate the wedding, and Halling made a long, involved toast about the bonds between the Athosians, the Caran, the Terrans and the City of the Ancients. It was boring, but John and Rodney sat cross-legged on the grass and let their knees touch. After the speeches and prayers, everyone got utterly shit-faced and danced around the bonfire. John pulled Rodney into the woods and fucked him against a tree. Rodney didn’t even complain about the possibility of poison ivy.

Teyla and Arlan continued to split their time between Caran and Atlantis. They wandered around the city holding hands and generally behaving like newlyweds. Their happiness made everyone smile, even Ronon.
__

Everyone was completely shocked when, on the day of their first anniversary, Arlan stood up in the mess hall, repeated a phrase three times and left via the Stargate. Elizabeth had to tell everyone that Arlan had divorced Teyla, but John recognized what had happened.
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“Okay,” Rodney said, “What the fuck?” He was standing in Elizabeth’s office in front of her desk, with John slouched in a chair next to him. Teyla had walked out of the mess hall with great dignity and returned to their – her – quarters.

Elizabeth sighed and laid her hands flat on her desk. “Many old Earth cultures allowed a man to divorce his wife by saying ‘I divorce you’ three times in public. It would seem that the Caran have a similar custom.”

“Who would want to divorce Teyla?” Rodney’s hands were waving around like they did when he was getting ready to go into a major snit.

John blacked the windows of Elizabeth’s office with a thought, then grabbed one of Rodney’s flailing hands and pulled him into the other chair, keeping his hold. “Maybe we should ask her,” he said reasonably. “Or maybe we should wait for her to tell us if she wants to.”

Rodney slumped down in defeat. “I hate this,” he said, his voice cracking. “I want to kill that guy. Teyla’s like… like…”

“Like a sister,” Elizabeth said quietly, and all Rodney could do was nod.
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“It is the duty of our people to reproduce,” Teyla said, looking down at the campfire. “When I did not quicken during the first year, it was Arlan’s right to break our bond.”

“But,” Rodney said. “Sometimes it takes more than a year! Jeanne said it took them almost three to conceive Derek!” His hands were working up a good flail again. John grabbed the one closest to him and held it tight.

“It could be him,” Ronon grumbled. “Not you.”

Teyla gave him a gentle smile. “Arlan has fathered three children; it was not him.”

John looked at her across the fire. “What about all the kids who get orphaned because of the Wraith? Why not adopt them?”

“My people give those children to intact families to raise, especially to those who have lost children to the Wraith. It is believed that those who cannot… conceive…” she looked at Rodney to confirm the word, and he nodded. “Are not fit to raise them.”

“That’s just stupid,” Rodney said, in a small, miserable voice.

Teyla smiled at him sadly. “It is our way.”

“Would you… would you at least see Carson? He could find out if everything’s okay.” Rodney blushed a little. “Maybe you could have kids with someone else. Someone who isn’t a jerk.”

“I will consider it, Rodney,” she said, leaning slightly toward him. “Thank you for thinking of me.”
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“Are you sure you want me to talk in front of these great brutes?” Carson asked, looking at Teyla and ignoring John, Rodney and Ronon, who were arrayed behind her chair.

“They are my friends, Dr. Beckett,” she said. “I would only tell them later.”

Carson sighed, then sat down at his desk, leafing through the printouts from the Ancient scanner. “Teyla, love, it’s very unlikely that you’ll ever have a child.” He looked at her with compassion and sadness, noticing when three hands came down to rest on her narrow shoulders.

Teyla looked down for a moment, and then seemed to gather herself. “What have you found out?”

He spread the printouts onto the desk. He pointed to a specific area with a pen. “Your uterus is malformed.” He slid a notepad over and drew what looked like a cow’s face on it. “It should look like this, dear.” He pointed to the center, to a pear-shaped area. He pointed back to the printout. All of them could see that the area was different – shaped like a T. Carson looked at her sympathetically. “It’s actually a good thing that you didn’t get pregnant – you would have never carried to term and could have had a very sick or damaged baby.”

Rodney’s face was flaming red, but he squeezed Teyla’s shoulder gently. “Can’t you fix it, Carson?” he asked, almost plaintively.

Carson shook his head. “I’m sorry. There’s nothing I can do. With your permission, Teyla, I’d like to consult with some colleagues on Earth. This is ringing a bell with me, but I can’t quite put my finger on it.”

“I… I would appreciate that, Dr. Beckett,” she said, inclining her head gracefully.

Carson reached out and touched the back of her hand where it rested on the desk. “Feel free to run these over-protective big brothers away if you’d like some time on your own.”

“I think I would like some time alone,” she said, reaching up to pat John’s, Rodney’s and Ronon’s hands in turn. “Thank you,” she said, not looking up at them.

All four men watched helplessly as she walked out, her head high.

Ronon spoke for all of them. “This sucks.”
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"We could steal her a baby. We have cloaked jumpers." Rodney was slumped in the corner made by the bed and the wall.

"Rodney," John chided. "Teyla wouldn't accept a stolen baby as a gift."

"Well, we wouldn't tell her where we got it, of course. We could say we found it!"

John stripped off his shirt and sat down on the edge of the bed. "Yeah, let's tell her it floated down the river in a reed basket." He reached over and shoved at Rodney's knee. "You're a crappy liar anyway. She'd never buy it."

"I hate it when you're right," Rodney said, pushing himself over onto his side and laying his head into John's lap.

John leaned down and kisses the side of his neck. "I know. I'll try to be wrong as soon as possible to restore the balance."
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Three weeks later, they gathered in Carson's office again.

"Well, love," he said. "I think I know what we're dealing with." He watched as three large hands reached for Teyla's shoulders again. "Did your mother ever tell you of a folk remedy called kaisen root?"

"Yes," Teyla said. "It was a remedy for pregnancy sickness and to stop babies from being born too soon. It grew on Athos, but we never found it anywhere else."

"Itana has some," Carson said, referring to one of the Athosian midwives he sometimes consulted with. "She let me analyze a sample."

He spread some printouts onto the desk. All four leaned forward, but only Rodney seemed to know what he was looking at.

"It's been a long time since I did anything with chemistry," he said. "But you appear to have found something pretty close on Earth."

"Yes," Carson said. "And that's the problem. It's similar in structure to a drug given to women on Earth from the 40's to the 60's. It was supposed to prevent miscarriage, but it caused reproductive problems for the children who were exposed to it."

"Thalidomide?" Sheppard asked, and Carson flinched.

"No, thank god," he said. "Not that bad, but not good either." He looked up at Teyla. "It appears you were rather troublesome to your Mum," he said with a small smile. "Itana said she had to use quite a lot of the root."

"I was told stories," Teyla said, smiling wryly. "She often said that she was grateful for my birth being early."

Carson reached out and patted her hand. "Either way, we're glad to have you with us, lass."

"So there's nothing…" Ronon said.

Carson shook his head. "There's no cure, son."

Teyla raised her hand and smoothed her hair back, then looked over her shoulder. "I would like to speak to Dr. Beckett alone, if I may," she said, raising an eyebrow.

Rodney, John and Ronon retreated swiftly.

"Carson," Teyla asked gravely, leaning forward. "Is there still a chance that I could quicken?"

Carson shook his head. "Well, you could – but you'd never carry to term…"

"Or the baby could be malformed; yes, I know." She nodded once. "I wish for you to make sure that does not happen by accident, if you can."

Carson sighed. "I can. It's a simple surgery, if you're sure."

She nodded again. "I am."

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John arranged for a team camping trip on the mainland – they all needed it. Ronon built a roaring fire and dragged up a couple of logs. John and Rodney carried their gear from the puddlejumper and set up the tents while Teyla checked the perimeter, more out of habit than necessity. They watched the sunset, then John instructed Ronon and Teyla in the finer points of roasting hot dogs on sticks, and Rodney later gave a concise lecture on s’mores construction.

They didn’t talk a lot, but the silence was an easy one as they sat comfortably around the fire in the dark.

“You know,” John said, looking across at Teyla. “There are plenty of other couples around who can’t have a family.” He inclined his head toward Rodney, who nodded and half-smiled at John.

“We can be a family,” Ronon said gruffly, scuffing his feet in the dirt. Teyla smiled up at him with a soft look on her face.

John looked around the circle, at his hand in Rodney’s and Teyla’s in Ronon’s. “I think we already are,” he said, smiling. “One big, happy, dysfunctional family.”

“Please explain ‘dysfunctional’?” Teyla said.

John and Ronon both immediately turned toward Rodney.

“Why are you all looking at me?” he huffed.

And kicked dirt at John.

~end

Pairing(s): John Sheppard/Rodney McKay, Teyla Emmagen/Ronon Dex, Teyla Emmagen/OMC
Rating: Hard R
Summary: No one was particularly surprised when Teyla started dating. Several people were surprised that the person she was dating wasn’t Ronon.

First prescribed by physicians in 1938 for women who experienced miscarriages or premature deliveries, DES (diethylstilbestrol) was originally considered effective and safe for both the pregnant woman and the developing baby. A double-blind study was not done until DES had been on the market for more than a decade (Dieckmann, 1953). Even though it found that pregnant women given DES had just as many miscarriages and premature deliveries as the control group, DES continued to be aggressively marketed and routinely prescribed.

In the United States, an estimated 5-10 million persons were exposed to DES during 1938-1971, including women who were prescribed DES while pregnant and the female and male children born of these pregnancies.

In 1971, the Food and Drug Administration (FDA) issued a Drug Bulletin advising physicians to stop prescribing DES to pregnant women because it was linked to a rare vaginal cancer in female offspring. DES was, however, never banned and continued to be prescribed in the U.S. and other countries well beyond 1971 (until 1978 in most European countries and as late as 1994 in some third world countries).

More than 30 years of research have confirmed that DES is a teratogen, an agent that can cause malformations of an embryo or fetus.

Recent research has confirmed that women exposed to DES before birth (in the womb), known as DES Daughters, are at an increased risk for the following health problems:
Clear cell adenocarcinoma (CCA) - A rare type of vaginal and cervical cancer. Approximately one in 1,000 (0.1 %) DES Daughters will be diagnosed with CCA. The risk is virtually non-existent among premenopausal women not exposed to DES. Additionally, pre-cancerous conditions such as CIN (Cervical Intraepithelial Neoplasia) and Adenosis are common.
Reproductive tract structural differences - Including T-shaped uterus, hooded cervix, cervical cockscomb, and pseudopolyp.
Pregnancy complications - Ectopic (tubal) pregnancy and pre-term (early) delivery. Severe birth defects in the presence of a T-shaped uterus.
Infertility - Difficulty becoming pregnant.
Auto-immune disorders - Some studies have shown an increased incidence of autoimmune diseases (such as lupus, rheumatoid arthritis, Hashimoto’s thyroiditis, and Graves Disease among others) among DES Daughters. It is quite possible DES affected the immune system as well as other bodily systems, and researchers are studying this question further.

For more information, see DES Action or The CDC’s DES Update.

I am a DES Daughter.

14 Valentines: Women's Health
 
 
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Coke Head: Flanigan[info]coke_monkey on February 6th, 2007 02:40 pm (UTC)
This was very nice. A very 'day in the life' piece that was solidly 'real' and sympathetic. It showcased the team structure and their closeness and their 'voices' were spot on. I very much enjoyed this fic.

Re: DES. I had no idea this occured! I was born in '75 so I was after the range of prescriptions, but geez...to be so grossly mistaken about a pregnancy treatment...very scary. I hope you are in good health and you have my best wishes.
Explicit Adult Content? You're soaking in it!: Teyla by svendra[info]yin_again on February 6th, 2007 03:13 pm (UTC)
Thank you so much for the lovely compliments.

DES is on of those "dirty little secrets" of the phameaceutical industry - until about 10 years ago, it didn't get talked about much at all. The affected population is rather small, which is good, and there have been grassroots efforts lately to get information out to OB/GYNs to make sure that affected women are followed closely. The youngest of the DES Daughters generation, like myself, are approaching 40 and easing out of their child-bearing years, so research is turning to the effects on the third generation. Luckily, their risks are greatly reduced.

As for me...I'm in pretty good health. I have auto-immune thyroid disease that is under control. I have some of the structural changes associated with DES and I am infertile. I've had a couple of surgeries for pre-cancerous conditions, but have been fine for nearly 10 years. But there are worse fates, so it's all good. Thank you so much for your interest in the story, and in my story. I appreciate it.
Sharkie[info]wolfshark on February 6th, 2007 02:44 pm (UTC)
Awwww, Teyla!
Explicit Adult Content? You're soaking in it!: Teyla by svendra[info]yin_again on February 6th, 2007 03:07 pm (UTC)
I know!
LadyCat[info]ladycat777 on February 6th, 2007 02:51 pm (UTC)
I love you so, so much.
Explicit Adult Content? You're soaking in it!: Teyla by svendra[info]yin_again on February 6th, 2007 03:07 pm (UTC)
Love you too, babydoll.
aimeelicious: SGAronanwarrior_byspacegraphics[info]aimeelicious on February 6th, 2007 02:52 pm (UTC)
OMG what a sad but sweet story with a happy ending and Ronon/Teyla and John/Rodney funny and I LOVE YOU! *draws hearts*

Seriously, I have developed this THING for Ronon, he makes my heart grow three sizes every time he's a woobie.
Explicit Adult Content? You're soaking in it!: Teyla by svendra[info]yin_again on February 6th, 2007 03:07 pm (UTC)
Thank you so much. Love you, too, honey. I also adored Ronon here - so easily accepting of all the things around him and making a family out of this bunch of whackos.
Cate: team nap [by ileliberte][info]sheafrotherdon on February 6th, 2007 02:55 pm (UTC)
This is such a beautiful story - Rodney wanting to steal Teyla a baby was so wrong and so CUTE, because he's so fumbling in wanting to make it right for her, the great dork - and I love everyone figuring out what to do and how o adapt. Really lovely.

And the information at the end only deepened my appreciation for it - especially how beautifully and skilfully you took the problems a whole group of women face and set them in another world to explore. Gorgeous *smishes*
Explicit Adult Content? You're soaking in it!: Teyla by svendra[info]yin_again on February 6th, 2007 03:05 pm (UTC)
Thank you so much. Poor Rodney - he hates not being able to fix stuff, and, seriously, he can totally steal a baby for Teyla!

This is something I've wanted to write about for a while, but it's hard to do it in a way that isn't afterschol-special-y or anvilicious. This challenge gave me the perfect opportunity. I'm so glad you enjoyed the story.
John Blonde[info]filenotch on February 6th, 2007 03:00 pm (UTC)
I like the way the guys react in this.
Explicit Adult Content? You're soaking in it![info]yin_again on February 6th, 2007 03:03 pm (UTC)
Thank you! I love how a man's automatic reaction to something being wrong is "fix it! fix it!" So, they'll call the doctor or steal a baby or want to beat the shit out of the guy who screwed their sister over. It's kind of endearing.
lamardeuse: J/R by tx_tart[info]lamardeuse on February 6th, 2007 03:23 pm (UTC)
Huh, nice. Well done portrait of Teyla, and an interesting way of introducing this bit of history. Thanks. :)

Also, I would kill to hear Joe Flanigan say We are totally going to fuck in a yurt. I'm just sayin'.
Explicit Adult Content? You're soaking in it![info]yin_again on February 6th, 2007 03:25 pm (UTC)
Also, I would kill to hear Joe Flanigan say We are totally going to fuck in a yurt. I'm just sayin'.

OMG, me, too!

And thank you!
Viva La Revolución: dh-Sunday[info]tex on February 6th, 2007 03:26 pm (UTC)
Poor Teyla. That really would be a tragedy. Of course, she does already have a family, in the purest sense of the term. Lovely story.
Explicit Adult Content? You're soaking in it!: Teyla by svendra[info]yin_again on February 6th, 2007 05:25 pm (UTC)
Thank you so much. They really do make a lovely family.
Bethy[info]bethynyc on February 6th, 2007 03:29 pm (UTC)
Beautifully done! Wonderful how you explained the Pegasus culture and infertility problems and the relationships of the team members.

*hugs you*
Explicit Adult Content? You're soaking in it!: Teyla by svendra[info]yin_again on February 6th, 2007 05:26 pm (UTC)
Thank you! I have wanted to write about this for a while, and the idea of similar issues in diverse cultures gave me a perfect opportunity.
Katarzyna: Shep - McK friend Hive[info]zyna_kat on February 6th, 2007 03:30 pm (UTC)
I loved this so much! Thanks for writing it.
Explicit Adult Content? You're soaking in it!: Teyla by svendra[info]yin_again on February 6th, 2007 05:26 pm (UTC)
Thank you - I'm so glad you enjoyed it.
Elayna: Atlantis Wraith season[info]elayna88 on February 6th, 2007 03:33 pm (UTC)
That's such a wonderful story, and so sweet how it ends with the four accepting that they're a big happy dysfunctional family.
Explicit Adult Content? You're soaking in it!: Teyla by svendra[info]yin_again on February 6th, 2007 05:27 pm (UTC)
Thank you - they're a mess, but they're each others' mess.
Anonymity as a Refuge: sga:SGA Team[info]mirabile_dictu on February 6th, 2007 04:01 pm (UTC)
I loved this hugely. What a wonderful, heart-warming story. It's really how I see them, inside my head and in my heart. Thank you very very much.
Explicit Adult Content? You're soaking in it!: pink raygun[info]yin_again on February 6th, 2007 05:28 pm (UTC)
how I see them, inside my head and in my heart

Me, too - and what a lovely way to put it. Thank you for reading and comenting.
<3.14[info]apple_pi on February 6th, 2007 04:14 pm (UTC)
Wow, sensitively handled and a it story. Also, I'd never heard of DES before today, so thank you for fixing that.

Gorgeous story. I thought Teyla was just beautifully in character, as were the rest of the team.
<3.14[info]apple_pi on February 6th, 2007 04:16 pm (UTC)
Okay, I accidentally deleted part of that first sentence, lol. It's supposed to say: Sensitively handled and a touching story. I have no idea where "it" came from. :-)
(no subject) - [info]yin_again on February 6th, 2007 05:29 pm (UTC) (Expand)
Seperis[info]seperis on February 6th, 2007 04:22 pm (UTC)
Oh wow. That is lovely. I love the combination of custom and tradition in the Pegasus galaxy combined with Atlantean view on it. And the realism is excellent. Thank you so much for posting this.
Explicit Adult Content? You're soaking in it!: Teyla by svendra[info]yin_again on February 6th, 2007 05:29 pm (UTC)
Thank you. I'm so glad that you liked it!
hrroyalgeekness[info]hrroyalgeekness on February 6th, 2007 04:27 pm (UTC)
Wow, this was a wonderful story. I loved how the boys rallied around Teyla trying to be her heroes. Reminds me of my big brothers (one real, one "adopted").

Thank you for sharing your story and giving links to information in DES.
Explicit Adult Content? You're soaking in it!: atlantis is home[info]yin_again on February 6th, 2007 05:30 pm (UTC)
Thank you - I loved the boys rallying around her, even though she'tough as nails. I'm so glad you enjoyed the story.
Rosa: sga - rodney john yellow (from blimey_ic[info]rrrosa on February 6th, 2007 04:34 pm (UTC)
Wonderful story, as is usual. (more podfic please? hehe) And I didn't know about DES. Things like 14valentines make me so proud of fandom folk! Nice job working it in as a natural part of the story.
Explicit Adult Content? You're soaking in it!: Teyla by svendra[info]yin_again on February 6th, 2007 05:32 pm (UTC)
Thank you! (I'm working on more podfic!) One of the very best things about fandom is the access to information that I would never have seen...we all share our experiences and make each other smarter. It's so cool.
Abbie Strehlow: Love[info]knotted_rose on February 6th, 2007 04:43 pm (UTC)
Awwwwww.

::draws sparkly hearts around all of them::

I liked this, liked the emotion in it. Loved how the boys, being boys, wanted to *fix* it, regardless whether or not it was right.

And I love you too, so much, for sharing your situation, for bringing more understanding into the world. You are an *amazing* woman. So proud of you, proud to be your friend.

::draws sparkly hearts around you too::

Love you.
Explicit Adult Content? You're soaking in it!: Teyla by svendra[info]yin_again on February 6th, 2007 05:33 pm (UTC)
You make me blush. And the poor boys - they really do want to fix stuff, even when they can't. I'm proud to be *your* friend, you awesome woman. Love you.
abbyheart: face of woobie[info]abbyheart on February 6th, 2007 04:48 pm (UTC)
This is such a sweet story. I love that they are one, big family.

And i really must say that i hope that you are well and weren't affected.
Explicit Adult Content? You're soaking in it!: Teyla by svendra[info]yin_again on February 6th, 2007 05:34 pm (UTC)
Thank you so much! And, I'm fine. I have some issues stemming from the exposure, but I'm fine.
Rhi: Kara and Helo[info]vipersweb on February 6th, 2007 05:05 pm (UTC)
This was lovely. I liked the simplicity of it while it deals with a serious issue. It makes the teamness of it and the family aspect of it so much more powerful. Lovely.
Explicit Adult Content? You're soaking in it!: Teyla by svendra[info]yin_again on February 6th, 2007 05:35 pm (UTC)
Thank you so much. Family/friends just do what needs to be done, with as little fuss as possible, and they're family - so it's just what they do for each other. I kinda love them.
Nelle[info]lovelokest on February 6th, 2007 05:31 pm (UTC)
Oh this was lovely, sweet and moving. Fabulous job. Oh Teyla.
Explicit Adult Content? You're soaking in it!: Teyla by svendra[info]yin_again on February 6th, 2007 05:36 pm (UTC)
Thank you so much. Oh, Teyla, indeed.
hack_benjamin22[info]hack_benjamin22 on February 6th, 2007 05:34 pm (UTC)
John didn’t bother to untie Rodney’s boots; he just tossed him over the bed and fucked him. In a yurt.

Possibly my favorite line ever. :)
Explicit Adult Content? You're soaking in it!: oh John by blimeyicons[info]yin_again on February 6th, 2007 05:36 pm (UTC)
Hee! Thank you. John gets impatient sometimes. In a yurt.


Yurts are just inherently funny.
(no subject) - [info]hack_benjamin22 on February 6th, 2007 07:19 pm (UTC) (Expand)
The Alpha Beta[info]diluvian on February 6th, 2007 05:41 pm (UTC)
::misty-eyed::
Explicit Adult Content? You're soaking in it!: 14 valentines[info]yin_again on February 6th, 2007 08:54 pm (UTC)
Thank you!
green_grrl: SGA_JR_rplusj[info]green_grrl on February 6th, 2007 05:50 pm (UTC)
The teamy goodness is wonderful! And I love the extrapolation you've made about Pegasus culture and fertility. It's actually very, very likely, athough TPTB probably won't go to such an "un-PC" place in canon.
Explicit Adult Content? You're soaking in it!: Teyla by svendra[info]yin_again on February 6th, 2007 08:57 pm (UTC)
Thank you. It seems to me that the Athosians would be a little rigid in that area, but you're right that I doubt the Powers would go to such a place.
Taiteilija, Ph.D.: lying close to each other[info]taiteilija on February 6th, 2007 06:15 pm (UTC)
Wow. A very intense story. I especially loved the ending - they *are* one big family and I have to smile every time this is mentioned in fics.

I hope you as a DES Daughter don't have any health problems caused by DES! My mother is one as well - my grandmother was prescribed DES. Considering what effects that could have had on my mother's ability to conceive children, I'm always glad that I live when I read about this estrogen.
I'm surprised that many people haven't heard about this before - since I was told about DES as a child I always assumed this was something you just *know*, like you know that Russia is the biggest country on Earth...
Explicit Adult Content? You're soaking in it!: 14 valentines[info]yin_again on February 6th, 2007 09:02 pm (UTC)
Thank you so much - I'm glad you liked the story.

My mom told me about DES when I was 13, when I had to start seeing the GYN twice a year. There are so many variables (how much the patient took and when in the pregnancy) that have bearing on what can happen. My mother was prescribed a high dose and took it from 6 weeks pregnant to my burth at 35 weeks, so I am very lucky that my issues are only auto-immune and fertility-related. I will gladlt take those over the cancer options.

It's not an issue that gets a lot of press - it effects a small population, and one that is nearly closed, since the Daughters are exiting their child-bearing years. Also, there was a lot of Big Pharma money behind DES - it was very profitable and highly marketed. The whole thing has some ugly corners. But, you're here, and I'm here and that's cool for both of us!
(no subject) - [info]taiteilija on February 7th, 2007 02:45 pm (UTC) (Expand)
Polly: JS as JTK by aerianya[info]polly_b on February 6th, 2007 06:42 pm (UTC)
I enjoyed the story - well imagined, loved the dialogue.

I'm a DES daughter, too. Aside from some autoimmune-related stuff, I've been lucky. My brother (a DES son) is infertile, though. I hadn't considered the idea that there might be conssequences to my own children ... thanks for the CDC links.
Explicit Adult Content? You're soaking in it!: 14 valentines[info]yin_again on February 6th, 2007 08:56 pm (UTC)
Thank you so much. We should have a secret handshake or something...My thyroid disease is auto-immune, and my infertility is hormone related, so you do the math. I'm not as up on the third gen stuff, but the CDC is stil researching. Musch love and luck to you and your family.
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